The Garden

[Killdance]

typical putin policy, ptr well observed.
these people as an al dor and friends have grown up in the cold war.
long time ago, I've translated some topics in the Russian area
then I realized how al dor is ticking ..
they live in the past .. everything from the west is shit ..
you do not get out of their heads that still takes a few generations

[Nikole]

Wow.. that's even more fucked up than I thought.. :ymsigh:
Hope things will get better soon (if possible)..

[Roy]

A war going on with 3d sexvlLLa. A war going on with the klub community. I bet 3d sexvlLLa is loving this. This keeps up. All I see is failure coming!

[ibexxx]

Yeah a lot of people trying to calm things down over there. Problem is there are all these opinions and no one to take control. That's why I like it here. Just follow the rules, be nice or get deleted. If it were my forum I would have put my foot down by now, and told everyone to get back to doing something for the community or shut the fuck up.

[Killdance]

when a community is large, then the problems are also big ..
I prefer small and familier
klub 17 I was member there were not 500 members, that was nice time, but now
many problems and an evil eye of competitors
Unfortunately, many good people are gone ... I'm considering also to change my hobby


phoebe has al dor banned? I did not know lol :-BD

[Lime]

I don't know if this is due by Klub 17 community be great. I consider it as a problem that small group of Russians led by Kapitoshka and al_dor. As the PTR had spoken, to them all is "Russia vs. rest of the world."
Morotaika has much work to circumvent these problems. Unfortunately she can't be away for so long, but the community will enter into further conflict.

[overtron]

When i joined last year , the community was much more open and liberal , they let me post things that even i was unsure it was allowed .

Now there's a literally a witch hunt in progress .

I don't mind my post getting deleted when it's warranted or told "politely" to zip it when i get out of line.

Wish we could just go back to creating stuff and helping each other.

The sad part is that i predicted something like this would happen nearly a month ago and tried to warn them, just didn't expect so soon.
I seen this happen before in other creative groups , there's a difference of opinion , accusations are made , partisan lines are formed , actions are taken behind the seems , everything gets blown way out of proportions.
In the end with out strong leadership , things get ugly , eider the individual who exploit there connections best get there way or the side the spews the most hate .. or a combination of both.
Witch leads to a mass exodus of talent .

Some people thrive on the conflict game and play to win.

[ibexxx]

I've benched myself from the Garden boys and girls, but you still have me here if you want me :)

[Roy]

Because you are this forum main contributor. I will do the same. I too will only view the garden for now on without posting at all.
Its great to have you here. I am honored. :YMHUG:
Merry Christmas all
Roy

[Nikole]

Is it just me or is the Garden down for anyone else? /:)

Edit: Nevermind, it's back up