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What is death? - Roy - 05-08-2023 The final greatest mystery! My thought on it is you sleep forever which is good being it is peace for eternity... and it doesn't matter if you're buried 6ft under or being Cremated it is still peace for eternity. But a couple of things got me to thinking and just for you'll know I don't believe in reincarnation! One time a colleague of mine told me we will come back till we get it right... hmm... I thought to myself maybe that's why the population is so large and getting larger everyday... are we really messing up that much? And the doctors told my mom she was dead for a minute when she was giving birth to one of my sisters...She told me during that time that she was in a tunnel and at the end of it a light and in the light her family that passed away was calling for her to come on Barbara... come home.... Now my mom was very religious so that really got me to thinking to know she's a firm believer in god and there was no reason for her to lie. Another time I had a colleague of mine tell me he was gonna come back a a woman... my reply to him was...then you'll come back as one ugly ass woman ![]() I would like the members thoughts on this... What is death? ![]() 'I crossed over': Survivors of near-death experiences share 'afterlife' stories For many, the question of what happens when we die is a mysterious one. But for others, the question has a clear answer. April 3, 2015, 5:31 AM PDT / Updated July 15, 2016, 8:21 AM PDT / Source: TODAY By Lindsay Sobel Dyner and Chris Serico For many, the question of what happens when we die is a mysterious one — a TODAY survey found that 55 percent of people are absolutely certain there is an afterlife, 37 percent are not certain, and 8 percent are certain there isn't an afterlife. But for some who have been through near-death experiences, the question has a clear answer. Take public speaker Anita Moorjani, who shared her story with Maria Shriver on TODAY. "I believe that I died, yes — that I crossed over into the afterlife and back," said Moorjani, adding that the afterlife is "like being in a really unlimited space and time." RELATED: 'Impossible' love story comes true after woman's brush with death Diagnosed with lymphoma in 2002, Moorjani — who considers herself more spiritual than religious — was losing her cancer battle, withering down to just 85 pounds and battling tumors from the base of her skull to her abdomen. She slipped into a coma in February 2006. Anita Moorjani Anita Moorjani now shares the story of her near-death experience in talks around the world.Courtesy of Anita Moorjani She said that’s when she died and crossed over to an afterlife. “I felt as though I was above my body,” she said. “It was like I had 360-degree peripheral vision of the whole area around. But not just in the room where my body was in, but beyond the room.” According to Moorjani, the author of the new book "Dying To Be Me", she was reunited in that state with her late father, who told her to turn back. “He said that I've gone as far as I can, and if I go any further, I won't be able to turn back,” she said. “But I felt I didn't want to turn back, because it was so beautiful. It was just incredible, because, for the first time, all the pain had gone. All the discomfort had gone. All the fear was gone. I just felt so incredible. And I felt as though I was enveloped in this feeling of just love. Unconditional love.” Citing an “incredible clarity where everything started to make sense,” she said she decided to return to her body because she believed “it would heal very, very quickly.” It did. “Within four days, my tumors shrunk by 70 percent, and the doctors were shocked,” she said. “And I kept telling everyone that, ‘I know I'm going to be okay. I know it’s not my time to die.’” Moorjani isn’t alone in connecting a "crossing over" experience to healing. Christy Beam Annabel Beam was diagnosed at age 4 with a chronic digestive disorder.Courtesy of Christy Beam Diagnosed at age 4 with a chronic digestive disorder, 8-year-old Annabel Beam experienced intense pain and frequent hospital visits. “She was always so sweet and gracious,” her father, Kevin, told TODAY. “She wasn't making a big deal out of it, and she was suffering in silence.” But the suffering started to overwhelm Annabel. RELATED: Doctor claims he has evidence of the afterlife “I told my mom, ‘Mama, I want to die, and go to heaven with Jesus where there is no more pain. I don't want to be in this much pain for the rest of my life,’” she said. “And so I was so committed to just giving up that sometimes whenever I couldn't sleep I'd kinda try and figure out what would happen if I did die. Then I decided, my mom would come with me. My dad would stay and watch my sisters.” Girl survives 30-foot fall unscathed, says afterlife is real April 3, 201501:12 Annabel’s mother, Christy, refused to believe what she’d heard. “I remember thinking, ‘That's not what she said,’” Christy recalled. “She doesn't know anything about giving up. She's a fighter.” Recommended Gift Guides 33 sweet Mother's Day gifts for the sister who deserves it all Style Lululemon's secret sale section just added even more deals — 20 to shop now Days later, Annabel said she fell 30 feet from a tree branch that cracked while she was sitting on it with her sister, Abbie. She claims that after bumping her head three times on the way down and falling into the hollowed-out base of the tree, she died and went to heaven. RELATED: Read an excerpt of Annabel's story from 'Miracles from Heaven' here “It was really bright, and I sat on Jesus’ lap and he told me, ‘Whenever the firefighters get you out, there will be nothing wrong with you,’” Annabel recalled. “And I asked him if I could stay and he said, ‘No, I have plans you need to fulfill on Earth that you cannot fulfill in heaven.’” The Beam family The Beam family in front of the tree that Annabel says changed her life.Courtesy of Christy Beam A few days later, she told her family about her experience. “She was very matter-of-fact: very ‘This is what happened,’ not at all animated, just, ‘Here are the facts,’” Christy said. “And then she stopped talking, and looked out the window for the rest of the trip.” Now symptom-free, Annabel has gone from taking 10 daily medications to none. "She fell 30 feet head first, without any injuries or one bug bite,” her mom said. “She came out of that tree hours later wet, muddy, and with scratches. And she’s well.” RELATED: Before his death, teenager's IV pole project changed lives for kids with cancer The tree, which toppled due to weather, remains in the Beam family front yard, beside a cross Kevin carved after the accident. “I’m glad that I didn’t ever try and cut it down,” he said. “I do think that this tree was actively involved in a miracle.” His wife — who turned Annabel’s story into the book “Miracles from Heaven” which has now been turned into a major motion picture of the same name — agreed. “It had a purpose,” Christy said. “It was a vessel.” Annabel, who continues to climb trees, feels fortunate. “Most kids aren’t ever healed,” she said. “And so anytime I see [the tree], I'm just grateful, and happy.” RE: What is death? - Techrev - 05-20-2023 "Before we were born, we knew only death. When we came to know life, death was no longer enough for us. We were filled with longing, desire, love, fear and pain. The death we once knew so well, only rests a dark glimmer in a world of distraction. The feast is now, leave the famine for when it comes. Raise your glasses, embrace your friends, separate yourself from the things that tear away your happiness, because it is yours. For however brief a time, it is yours." The bigger question is what is life? The truth is there is no spoon, but I can't think of anything better to eat my yogurt with. We exist in a sliver of time that is immeasurably small. What we perceive is constructed by our brains and placed in our memory, but never actually existed in any way we can understand. Existence itself is a paradox. It's far easier to prove we don't exist than it is to prove we exist, but the fact that we try means we do. Deja vu is an impossible bug in the system. A glitch in the matrix. Proof things aren't what they seem. Before there was nothing, we did not know. The truth is, everyone has been dead before. We're alive now. We are forever etched in time. RE: What is death? - Roy - 05-30-2023 (05-20-2023, 10:36 AM)Techrev Wrote: So you believe in reincarnation? RE: What is death? - Techrev - 06-07-2023 (05-30-2023, 03:45 AM)Roy Wrote: Either way, we were dead before - and now we're alive. I didn't say we were all alive before, lol. I don't know. I do think there is something consistent about us over time and life spans, but at the same time there are so many more people, now, than before. But what I said is for sure true. No matter what you believe. And us, our lives, everything we do - it's all stored in time. |